Talk:Sereer Grammar

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Phonology

The phonological inventory of Bari consists of many consonants and vowels, which have many interesting properties.

A tentative consonant inventory of Bari:

		Labial	Dental	Alveolar	Palatal	Velar	Glottal	Pharyngeal
Nasal		m	n̪	n	ɲ	ŋ
Stop	voiceless	p ~ pʰ ~ ɸ	t̪⁽ʰ⁾	tʰ		k ~ kʰ, (kᵂ)	ʔ
	voiced	b		d	ɟ	g
	implosive	ɓ		ɗ
Fricative		ɸ		s, (z)				(ʕ)
Liquid				l, r
Glide					j

A tentative vowel inventory of Bari:

			Front	Central	Back
High			i	ɨ	u
High-mid			ɪ		ʊ
Mid			e?, ɛ	ə	ɤ, o, ɔ
Open			æ	a

This vowel chart needs a lot of editing, in terms of organizing the vowels better & making it look prettier overall. Erin 00:33, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

There's probably justification to add a row for prenasalized voiced stops. Also, we haven't seen any evidence that i and ɪ, or u and ʊ, are contrastive. Might be a short/long alternation. Jevon 16:57, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Tricky Sounds

Kelsey and I have been having a really hard time trying to figure out what our spectrograms mean for stops (ejectives and implosives in particular). What are the hallmarks of an ejective stop vs. a regular stop vs. an implosive stop? We have noticed that a lot many of the things that we have been writing as implosives have creaky vowels. Is this something particularly associated with implosives? But we have examples of creaky vowels accompanying non-implosive stops. Similarly for what we have been calling "tense" stops, is the double release of ejectives what we should be associating with these sounds? What cues have you all been taking to make these decisions?--Mel 03:59, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Morphology

This is where morphology talk should go.