Violet Super, Grace Davis, Madeline Davis: Conversation: Weaving (1989)

Primary participants: Violet Super (speaker), Grace Davis (speaker), Madeline Davis (speaker), William Bright (researcher)
Date: October 16, 1989
Location: House of Grace Davis
Project identifier: GD-MD-VSu-01
Publication details: Unpublished (recorded by William Bright on October 16th, 1989, transcribed with Violet Super on October 18th, 1989)
Manuscript scan: http://linguistics.berkeley.edu/~karuk/text-pdfs/V_G_M.pdf
Additional contributors: Clare Sandy (transcriber), Line Mikkelsen (editor),

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Grace Davis

[1]	akâayva	vaa	u-rôov-anik	when I was packing	you know	vúra	vaa	káruk	xás	ni-mah
	anyone	so	3s(>3)-upriverward.from.here-ANC	when I was packing	you know	Intensive	so	upriver	then	1s(>3)-see

[talking about an unfinished basket] Somebody took it upriver when I was packing , you know, then I saw it upriver.

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Violet Super

[2]	I want it.

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Grace Davis

[3]	You want it?

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Violet Super

[4]

Yeah.

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Grace Davis

[5]	Well I can fix it, finish it up when I get back up there.

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[6]	pay	hárivurava	pa-ni-pvâaram
	this	anytime	NOMZ-1s(>3)-go.back

Whenever I go back there.

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Violet Super

[7]	Luke is growing out of his basket.

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Grace Davis

[8]

Oh yeah?

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Violet Super

[9]	tá	vâaram	he's growin' fast
	PERF	long	he's growin' fast

He's already tall, he's growing fast.

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(Some material untranslatable due to noise is omitted here.)

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Grace Davis

[10]	hûutva-heesh	uum	p-ee-'íithvu-ti-haak	p-ee-capture-haak
	somehow-FUT	3.SG	ITER-2s(>3)-pack-DUR-when	ITER-2s(>3)-capture-when

How will you pack him, after you capture him?

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Violet Super

[11]	v-oom	can you make one	like	that size
	so-3.SG	can you make one	like	that size

That one, can you make one, like, that size?

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Grace Davis

[12]	hûut	ata	vaa	pa-sárip	i-tâarahi-va
	how	maybe	so	the-hazel.twigs	2s(>3)-have-PL.ACT

You've gotta have the sticks.

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Madeline Davis

[13]	arará-hi	ípum	pa-nu-chúuphi-ti-heesh
	human-language		NOMZ-1pl(>3)-speak-DUR-FUT

We're supposed to be talking Indian.

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Grace Davis

[14]	ni-xu-ti	áta	i-shán-aa-vish
	1s(>3)-think-DUR	maybe	2s(>3)-carry.(things)-PL-FUT

I thought you might bring some [sticks] up.

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Violet Super

[15]	Gotta be like telephone poles [referring to the sticks].

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Grace Davis

[16]	víri	hûut	i-kuph-eesh	vásihkam
	so	how	2s(>3)-do-FUT	behind

How would you pack them?

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Violet Super

[17]	I have to be like	fâat	kuma-kêemish	p-oo-'iithvú-tih-anik	fâatva
	I have to be like	what	3sPOSS-something.dangerous	ITER-3s(>3)-pack-DUR-ANC	something

I'll be like ... some kind of animal to pack them, something ...

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[18]	xás	kúkuum	tá	nu-píkav
	then	again	PERF	1pl(>3)-get.(person)

And then we'll go get him again].

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Grace Davis

[19]	akâay	akâay	p-oo-'iithvú-tih-anik
	who	who	NOMZ-3s(>3)-pack-DUR-ANC

Who? Who was packing it?

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Violet Super

[20]	I don't know.

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Grace Davis

[21]	xáyfaat	uum	vaa	i-pí-ti	you don't know	hôoy	if	i-pí-ti	pu-ná-'aapunmu-tih-ara
	don't!	3.SG	so	2s(>3)-say-DUR	you don't know	where	truly	2s(>3)-say-DUR	NEG-1s(>3)-know-DUR-NEG

Don't say, [in English] "I don't know.” Say [in Karuk] "I don't know."

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Violet Super

[22]	pu-ná-'aapunmu-tih-ara
	NEG-1s(>3)-know-DUR-NEG

I don't know.

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[23]	chími	talk about your weaving	fâatva	p-ee-víik-ti	payêem
	soon	talk about your weaving	something	NOMZ-2s(>3)-weave-DUR	now

Come on, talk about your weaving, whatever you're weaving now.

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Grace Davis

[24]	naa	vúra	payêem	pufâat	ná-viik-tih-ara
	1sg.	Intensive	now	nothing	1s(>3)-weave-DUR-NEG

I'm not weaving anything right now.

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Violet Super

[25]	no	páy	kích	uum	kun-ipí-ti	u-víik-tih
	no	this	only	3.SG	3pl(>3s)-say-DUR	3s(>3)-weave-DUR

People always say you're weaving.

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Madeline Davis

[26]	fâat kook
	what's.that?

What?

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Violet Super

[27]	fâat	kích	i-víik-tih
	what	only	2s(>3)-weave-DUR

[To Madeline:] What are you weaving?

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Madeline Davis

[28]	íp	vúra	nik	ni-xú-tih-at	kíri	ni-vik	ítam	pâanpay	tá	na-'ûuriha
	PAST	Intensive	a.little	1s(>3)-think-DUR-PAST	I.wish	1s(>3)-weave	earlier.today	after.while	PERF	1s(>3)-be.unwilling

I'm always thinking I'll weave, then I get lazy.

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[29]	ni-xú-ti	hárivarih-va	sárip	ni-sháan-kurih-at	íshaha-k
	1s(>3)-think-DUR	when-INDEF	hazel.twigs	1s(>3)-carry.(things)-into.water-PAST	water-Locative

[The other day] I thought I'd put some sticks in water.

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[30]

xás

ni-xú-ti

vaa

páy

kip

Violet

u-kupí-ti

the whole thing

vaa

t-oo

sáan-kuri

pú-xay

vúra

fikríip-tih-ara

then

1s(>3)-think-DUR

so

this

just

Violet

3s(>3)-do-DUR

the whole thing

so

PERF-3s(>3)

carry.(things)-into.water

NEG-not.yet

Intensive

pick.out-DUR-NEG

And I thought, "This is the way Violet does it, the whole thing, she puts it in, she doesn't sort them out."

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Grace Davis

[31]	ítam	xás	ni-fíkrip	chími	ni-vík-eesh
	earlier.today	then	1s(>3)-pick.out	soon	1s(>3)-weave-FUT

I used to sort them when I was gonna weave.

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Madeline Davis

[32]	puxáy	vúra	vaa	na-kupéesh-ara	pa-Violet	u-kupi-ti
	not.yet	Intensive	so	1s(>3)-will.do-NEG	NOMZ-Violet	3s(>3)-do-DUR

I can't do it like Violet does.

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Violet Super

[33]	naa	vúra	vaa	pay	I just pull out	pa-hûutva	ni-xú-ti	pay	koo
	1sg.	Intensive	so	this	I just pull out	NOMZ-somehow	1s(>3)-think-DUR	this	so.much

I just pull out however I think is right.

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Madeline Davis

[34]	hãã	víri	vaa	hûutva	kípa	hûutva	kupa-kuph-áh-eesh	tá	na-séey
	yes	so	so	somehow	like	somehow	MODAL-do-Modal-FUT	PERF	1s(>3)-not.know

How would I do that? I don't know.

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Violet Super

[35]	vaa	káan	xáat	uum	fikriip-tih
	so	there	may	3.SG	pick.out-DUR

[I put them] there hoping they will be sorted.

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(The first part of the sentence is hard to understand and is not transcribed.)

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Grace Davis

[36]	How can you know what you're gonna use?

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Violet Super

[37]	I do this way at first.

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Grace Davis

[38]	hâari	víri-va	káakum	kêe[chas]	úruh-sas
	sometime	so-so	some	big.ones	round-PL

Sometimes, some of the big ones are round.

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Violet Super

[39]	Yeah, I know.

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Grace Davis

[40]	That's why you have to...

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Violet Super

[41]	vaa	hûut	ni-kupá'-aapunm-ah-eesh	hûut	uum	koo-s
	so	how	1s(>3)-do-know-Modal-FUT	how	3.SG	so.much-PL

How will I know what size?

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Grace Davis

[42]	víri	v-oom	p-ée-muustih-aak	i-xús-eesh	mâa	vaa	pay
	so	so-3.SG	NOMZ-2s(>3)-look.at-when	2s(>3)-think-FUT	look!	so	this

When you look at it, you'll think, “That's it.”

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Violet Super

[43]	víri	man	pu-ná-maah-tih-ara
	so	why...	NEG-1s(>3)-see-DUR-NEG

But I can't see.

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(Violet is blind at this time.)

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Madeline Davis

[44]	chími	t-ee-kôokha
	soon	PERF-2s(>3)-win.at.gambling

Okay, you win!

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Grace Davis

[45]	vaa	vúra	t-ee-fyururíshuk-vu-naa
	so	Intensive	PERF-2s(>3)-pull.out-PL.ACT-PL

You just pull them out.

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Violet Super

      

[46]

chími

fâat

ayu'âach

vúra

uum

vúra

vaa

tá-ni-'áfish

mâa

vaa

pay

vaahyâach

soon

what

it.was.because

Intensive

3.SG

Intensive

so

PERF-1s(>3)-touch

look!

so

this

exactly.that

It's because I feel it, [I think] “That's the right one!”

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Grace Davis

[47]	manâa	p-ee-fíkriip-ti-haak	vaa	kári	i-'afishêena-tih-eesh
	maybe	NOMZ-2s(>3)-pick.out-DUR-when	so	then	2s(>3)-feel.(by.touching)-DUR-FUT

When you're sorting it, then you can feel it.

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Violet Super

[48]	pi'êep	kun-ipí-tih	pa-yupsírihar-as	uum	vaa	xás	mukun-fikríp-ar-as
	long.ago	3pl(>3s)-say-DUR	the-blind-PL	3.SG	so	then	3plPOSS-pick.out-INST-PL

Long ago, they say, the blind people were their sorters.

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[49]	pa-kéevniik-as	kun-fíkriip-tih	xás	pu-kun-maah-tih
	the-old.woman.(dimin.)-PL	3pl(>3s)-pick.out-DUR	then	NEG-3pl(>3s)-see-DUR

The old women sorted, they couldn't see.

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[50]	I don't know how.

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[51]	vaa	mukun-ikyáviichva	akâayva	vúra	tá	kun-sáruk	pa-mukun-sárip
	so	3plPOSS-work	anyone	Intensive	PERF	3pl(>3s)-bring.(things)	the-3plPOSS-hazel.twigs

That was their job, different people brought them their sticks.

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Grace Davis

[52]	káru	uumkun	pu-ikyâa-tih
	also	they	NEG-make-DUR

Why didn't they do it themselves?

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Violet Super

[53]	man	kun-yáavhi-ti	táay	pa-mukun-íkyav
	why...	3pl(>3s)-hurry-DUR	much	the-3plPOSS-making

They were in a hurry, they had a lot to do.

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Grace Davis

[54]	man'áta	pa-kéevniikich	uum	pufâat	mú-kyav
	maybe	the-old.woman.(dimin.)	3.SG	nothing	3sPOSS-making

Maybe an old woman, she had nothing to do.

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Violet Super

[55]	víri	man	ayu'âach	uum	u-yupsírihi-ti
	so	why...	it.was.because	3.SG	3s(>3)-be.blind-DUR

Well of course, because she's blind.

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[56]	uum	vaa	káan	kích	ú-krii-va	u-fíkriip-ti
	3.SG	so	there	only	3s(>3)-live-PL.ACT	3s(>3)-pick.out-DUR

She just sits there, she sorts them.

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Grace Davis

[57]	vaa	vúra	mú-kyav	all the time
	so	Intensive	3sPOSS-making	?

That's her job, all the time.

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Violet Super

[58]	But not me.

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Grace Davis

[59]	You can't tell,	xâat	xára	i-shanpíithva	pa-sárip
	You can't tell,	may	long.time	2s(>3)-carry.(things).around	the-hazel.twigs

You can't tell, no matter how long you handle the sticks.

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Violet Super

[60]	yeah	vúra	vaa	tá	ni-páathkuri	the whole thing
	yeah	Intensive	so	PERF	1s(>3)-throw.into	the whole thing

That's why I throw it in, the whole thing.

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[61]	kári	xás	tá-ni-fyúrurishuk	and I feel around
	then	then	PERF-1s(>3)-pull.out	and I feel around

And I pull it out, and I feel around.

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[62]	naa	kupeenish	xas	vaa	pay	nik	koo
	1sg.	kupeenish	then	so	this	a.little	so.much

And I think, “That one's right.”

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Madeline Davis

[63]	Hey	vaa	pa-ni-máh-ara-ti	naa	káru	Violet	vaa	pay
	Hey	so	NOMZ-1s(>3)-see-INST-DUR	1sg.	also	Violet	so	this

I copy that too, like Violet ...

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[64]	tá	ni-paathkúrih-aheen	pa-nani-shárip
	PERF	1s(>3)-throw.into-ANT	the-1sPOSS-hazel.twigs

Then I threw in my sticks.

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Violet Super

[65]	But then you can start another one.

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(i.e., a different-sized basket)

[66]	pa-tûupichas	uum	i-hrôov-ish
	the-small.ones	3.SG	2s(>3)-use-?

You can use the little ones.

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Madeline Davis

[67]	pa-vík-ah-ar	kêechasa-hiruva	I couldn't do that
	the-weave--INST	big.ones-too	I couldn't do that

If the “weavers” (the sticks you weave with) are too big, I couldn't do that.

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[68]	I had to get it out the right size I wanted.

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Violet Super

[69]	iim	káru	vúra	vaa	mí-kyav
	2sg.	also	Intensive	so	2sPOSS-making

That's your way of doing it.

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Madeline Davis

[70]

naa

káru

vúra

vaa

naní-kuupha

naa

káru

vúra

iim

vaa

mí-kuupha

vaa

p-ee-páathkuri

káru

1sg.

also

Intensive

so

1sPOSS-doing

1sg.

also

Intensive

2sg.

so

2sPOSS-doing

so

NOMZ-2s(>3)-throw.into

also

That's my way of doing it, and that's your way of doing it, when you throw it in the water.

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Violet Super

[71]	yíth	kúna	tá	ni-kyâasip	tuupichas-yâach
	other	in.addition	PERF	1s(>3)-begin	small.ones-Intensive

I start another one, with smaller sticks.

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[72]	chavúra	pu-haríxay	naa	nee-pthíth-hara
	finally	NEG-sometimes	1sg.	1s(>3)-finish.weaving-NEG

But I never finish it.

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Madeline Davis

[73]	pu-haríxay	ipthíith-eesh-ara	vaa	vúra	t-ee-kyâasip
	NEG-sometimes	finish.weaving-FUT-NEG	so	Intensive	PERF-2s(>3)-begin

You'll never finish it, you just start it.

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Violet Super

[74]	fátaak	vúra	tá	ni-páchish	yítha	kúna	ni-kyâasip
	somewhere	Intensive	PERF	1s(>3)-throw.down	one	in.addition	1s(>3)-begin

I just throw it down somewhere, I start another one.

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Madeline Davis

[75]	vúra	pu-haríxay	pikyáar-eesh	pa-mí-vik
	Intensive	NEG-sometimes	finish-FUT	the-2sPOSS-weaving.work

You'll never finish your weaving.

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Violet Super

[76]	vúra	káan	t-u-xaat-íshriih-va
	Intensive	there	PERF-3s(>3)-rot-down-PL.ACT

It's just turning rotten there.

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Madeline Davis

[77]	My mother used to tell me,	pa-fâat	i-xu-ti	kíri	ni-vik	ipthíith-i	otherwise you never will
	My mother used to tell me,	the-what	2s(>3)-want-DUR	want	1s(>3)-weave	finish.weaving-IMPER	otherwise you never will

My mother used to tell me, whatever you want to weave, finish it, otherwise you never will.

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Violet Super

[78]	víri	man	that's true ...	aayu'âach
	so	why...	that's true ...	it.was.because

Well, that's true, of course.

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Madeline Davis

[79]	mâa	yáxa	vaa	puxay	íim	pu-'ipthíith-tih-ara	vaa	vúra	t-i-páchish
	look!	look!	so	not.yet	2sg.	NEG-finish.weaving-DUR-NEG	so	Intensive	PERF-2s(>3)-throw.down

You see, you don't finish it, you just throw it away.

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Violet Super

[80]	koovúra	pa-naní-vik	vaa	u-kupí-tih
	all	the-1sPOSS-weaving.work	so	3s(>3)-do-DUR

It's that way with all my weaving.

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[81]	Then that's finished	naa	pura	na-vâara	xás	I just pick all the stricks
	Then that's finished	1sg.	NEG	1s(>3)-	then	I just pick all the stricks

Then that's finished. I don't ... I just pick all the stricks.

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[82]	No, I just wrap it up kinda,	xás	vaa	vúra	tá	ni-hruv
	No, I just wrap it up kinda,	then	so	Intensive	PERF	1s(>3)-use

No, I just wrap it up kinda, and I just use it like that [as an unfinished basket].

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Grace Davis

[83]	víri	vaa	man	vaa	p-ée-hruuv-tih
	so	so	why...	so	NOMZ-2s(>3)-use-DUR

Of course, because you use it like that.

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Violet Super

[84]	xás	axmáy	Daisy	u-'áhoo
	then	suddenly	Daisy	3s(>3)-go

And suddenly Daisy came [and said,]

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[85]	ooh	chí	pay	kan-ípthiith-tih
	ooh	soon	this	1s(>3)-finish.weaving-DUR

“Oh, I'm going to finish it.”

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[86]	xás	u-'ûusip
	then	3s(>3)-pick.up

And she picked it up.

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[87]	xás	áas	u-páathkurih	xás	koovúra	u-píktit	pa-sárip
	then	water	3s(>3)-throw.into	then	all	3s(>3)-tear.up	the-hazel.twigs

And she threw it in the water, and she unwove all the sticks.

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[88]	íp	ni-yrúh-at	kunish	á'
	PAST	1s(>3)-coil.(something)-PAST	sort.of	above

I'd kinda rolled it up.

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[89]	xás	u-píktit
	then	3s(>3)-tear.up

And she unwove it.

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[90]	xas	axákyaan	u-pvíikroov	ta'ítam	u-pthítha-heen
	then	twice	3s(>3)-weave.around	so	3s(>3)-finish.weaving-ANT

And she wove around twice, then she finished it

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[91]	That's the only one that got finished,	pa-nani-'arareemváram
	That's the only one that got finished,	the-1sPOSS-plate.basket

That's the only one got finished, my Indian plate.

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[92]	vaa	kôok	pa-ni-víik-ti	arareemváram
	so	kind	NOMZ-1s(>3)-weave-DUR	plate.basket

That's the only kind I weave, the Indian plate.

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[93]	I never tried nothin' else.

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Grace Davis

[94]	víri	manâa	vaa	yav	pa-vaa	i-víik-ti-haak
	so	maybe	so	good	NOMZ-so	2s(>3)-weave-DUR-when

Well, it's good that you weave that.

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Violet Super

[95]	kóovura	ni-xú-ti	ni-'ítap-eesh
	all	1s(>3)-think-DUR	1s(>3)-know-FUT

I'm just gonna learn.

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Grace Davis

[96]	víri	manâa	hôoy if	áta	i-shêey-ti	kumá'ii	p-ee-víik-ti
	so	maybe	no.way	maybe	2s(>3)-not.know-DUR	because.of	NOMZ-2s(>3)-weave-DUR

Well, it's not true that you don't know how, because you're weaving.

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Violet Super

[97]	Well	nobody tell me	vúra	naa
	Well	nobody tell me	Intensive	1sg.

Well, nobody tell me, I just...

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[98]	naní-xvaah	ní-hruuv-ti	ní-xus	vaa	páy	ni-nísh-eesh
	1sPOSS-head	1s(>3)-use-DUR	1s(>3)-think	so	this	1s(>3)-do-FUT

I'm using my head, I think, “I'll do like this.”

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[99]	It's not wrinkled or nothing.

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[100]	vúra	uum	yav	it comes out nice
	Intensive	3.SG	good	it comes out nice

It's just fine, it comes out nice.

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[101]	But my weavers	uum	kêechas-hiruva
	But my weavers	3.SG	big.ones-too

But my weavers, they're too big.

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Grace Davis

[102]	manâa	pu-xu-tih-ara	xáy	kêechas	ni-hruv
	maybe	NEG-think-DUR-NEG	let.not	big.ones	1s(>3)-use

Well, you shouldn't try to use big ones.

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Violet Super

[103]	ní-xu-ti	kíri	kúnish	sákriiv
	1s(>3)-want-DUR	want	sort.of	hard

I want to make it kinda solid.

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[104]	kúnish	kíri	sákriiv	kúnish	pa-ní-ktaam-sipree-haak	pa-xuun
	sort.of	want	hard	sort.of	NOMZ-1s(>3)-hold.in.hand-up-1pl(>3)	the-acorn.soup

So that it's kind of solid when I pick it up, the acorn soup.

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Grace Davis

[105]	hôoy	if	imvár-ak	xuun	í-ktaam-sipree-vish
	where	truly	plate-Locative	acorn.soup	2s(>3)-hold.in.hand-up-FUT

You can't pick up acorn soup in a plate.

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Violet Super

[106]

When I am soaking acorn.

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[107]	That's what I use	arareemváram	that's my	takiríraam
	That's what I use	plate.basket	that's my	acorn-leaching.hole

That's what I use, an Indian plate; that's my leaching tray.

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Grace Davis

[108]	káru	uum	yíth	kun-kupee-kyâa-hi-tih
	also	3.SG	other	3pl(>3s)-MODAL-make-Modal-DUR

They make a different kind for that.

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Violet Super

[109]

I found that out, that's about two years ago.

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[110]

I had one, mama made one.

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[111]

Just like, you weave it like a handle basket.

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[112]

I always kept it, I don't use it.

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[113]

It's got a little side, about that high.

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[114]	vaa	p-oo-tákiram-tih
	so	NOMZ-3s(>3)-acorn-leaching.hole-DUR

That's what she soaked dough in.

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[115]	But she always used	arareemváram	too
	But she always used	plate.basket	too

But she always used the Indian plate too.

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[116]

So that's why I think that's what you are supposed to use.

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Grace Davis

[117]	Well, whatever you got	manâa	vaa	i-hrôov-ish
	Well, whatever you got	maybe	so	2s(>3)-use-FUT

Well, whatever you got, that's what you'll use.

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Violet Super

[118]

Well, I don't have the other kind.

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Grace Davis

[119]	Well,	manâa	pu-'ikyâa-tih-ara
	Well,	maybe	NEG-make-DUR-NEG

Well, you don't make it [acorn soup].

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Violet Super

[120]	víri	manâa	pu-ná-'aapunmu-tih-ara	xás	vúra	xás	kôok	pa-tákiram	vúra	kun-ikyâa-ti
	so	maybe	NEG-1s(>3)-know-DUR-NEG	then	Intensive	then	kind	NOMZ-acorn-leaching.hole	Intensive	3pl(>3s)-make-DUR

I don't know what kind they make for a soaking basket

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Grace Davis

[121]	víri	vaa	kích	p-eemváram	i-'ítap
	so	so	only	the-plate	2s(>3)-know

You only learned the plates.

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Violet Super

[122]	vaa	p-eemváram	kích	vaa	uum	kích	ni-xú-ti	vaa	tákiram
	so	the-plate	only	so	3.SG	only	1s(>3)-think-DUR	so	acorn-leaching.hole

All I know about plates is for soaking acorn dough

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[123]	káru	pa-pufich-'imváram	uum	yith
	also	the-deer-plate	3.SG	other

And the deermeat plate is different.

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[124]	vaa	káru	it's weaved real tight, about that big, mama made one
	so	also	it's weaved real tight, about that big, mama made one

That one, it's weaved real tight, about that big, mama made one.

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Grace Davis

[125]	Oh yeah, I never did see a	pufich-'imváram
	Oh yeah, I never did see a	deer-plate

Oh yeah, I never did see a deermeat plate.

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Violet Super

[126]	But you can't put	púufich	in an	arareemváram
	But you can't put	deer	in an	plate.basket

You can't put deermeat in an Indian plate.

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Grace Davis

[127]	vaa	káru	hûut	u-kupheesh
	so	also	how	3s(>3)-will.do

So what happens?

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Violet Super

[128]

You don't get no more.

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Grace Davis

[129]	víri	hûut	kun-kupa-'áv-ahi-tih
	so	how	3pl(>3s)-MODAL-eat-Modal-DUR

So how can they eat it? [without a special plate]

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[130]

Some people didn't know how to make it.

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[131]	víri	vaa	vúra	kich	pa-'imváram	kun-'ítap-tih
	so	so	Intensive	only	the-plate	3pl(>3s)-know-DUR

They only learned about the Indian plate.

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Violet Super

[132]	Ain't anybody knows how to make that	pufich-'imváram
	Ain't anybody knows how to make that	deer-plate

Nobody knows how to make a dearmeat plate.

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Grace Davis

[133]	víri	man	yáxa	naa	pu-ná-'aapunmu-tih-ara
	so	why...	look!	1sg.	NEG-1s(>3)-know-DUR-NEG

Well, look, I don't know how.

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Violet Super

[134]	manâa	iim	káruk	va-'áraar	I guess
	maybe	2sg.	upriver	3sPOSS-human	I guess

Well, you're an upriver Indian, I guess.

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Grace Davis

[135]	tíhyurukam
	placename

From Tihyurukam.

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[136]	naa	vúra	pu-ná-'aapunmu-tih-ara
	1sg.	Intensive	NEG-1s(>3)-know-DUR-NEG

I don't know.

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Violet Super

[137]

Well, just like me, I didn't know.

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[138]	vaa	pa-yíth	kôok	kun-íhruuv-tih-anik	pa-tákiram
	so	the-other	kind	3pl(>3s)-use-DUR-ANC	the-acorn-leaching.hole

They used to use a different kind of soaking basket.

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[139]	I have seen my Aunt	sáruk	t-óo	kyav	in the sand
	I have seen my Aunt	downhill	PERF-3s(>3)	make	in the sand

I have seen my Aunt, she did it by the river, in the sand.

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[140]

In a nice little flat place.

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[141]	víri	vaa	káan	pa-mu-acorns	they put it in there
	so	so	there	the-3sPOSS-?	they put it in there

That's where they put their acorns.

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Grace Davis

[142]

I know my mother used to do that down here.

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[143]	ni-pí-ti	if I did that the sand would just come all over
	-say-DUR	if I did that the sand would just come all over

I'm saying if I did that the sand would just come all over

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[144]	koovúra	yux-múrax	u-'árihishri-heesh
	all	dirt-nothing.but	3s(>3)-become-FUT

It will turn into nothing but sand.

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Violet Super

[145]

Yeah, but she never did.

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Grace Davis

[146]

How did they know how to add the water?

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Violet Super

[147]

They knew how to pick it up.

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[148]

When they get through and they need to get it out, they just splash a little water on it.

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Grace Davis

[149]	nuu	vúra	pú-vaa	kin-kuphêesh
	we	Intensive	NEG-so	1pl(>3)-will.do

We can't do that.

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Violet Super

[150]

Oh, I have to put a rag down.

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[151]	nuu	vúra	yith	va-'áraar	yith	kuma-'áraar-as
	we	Intensive	other	3sPOSS-human	other	3sPOSS-human-PL

We're different people, a different kind of people,

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[152]	pú-vaa	kin-kupa-'ítap-eesh
	NEG-so	1>2s-MODAL-know-FUT

we didn't learn how.

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Grace Davis

[153]	hãã	I couldn't do that	ayu'âach	vúra	vaa	yux-múrax	u-'árihishrih-eesh
	yes	I couldn't do that	it.was.because	Intensive	so	dirt-nothing.but	3s(>3)-become-FUT

Yes, I couldn't do that because it would turn into nothing but sand.

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Violet Super

[154]

Yeah, if you pour the water in, it would just come out.

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Grace Davis

[155]	i-yváay-shipr-eesh
	2s(>3)-pour-?-FUT

You begin to pour it.

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Violet Super

[156]

But how do they do it?

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Grace Davis

[157]

I guess they know how to do it.

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Violet Super

[158]

I never learned, I never watched them.

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[159]	Jean used to watch her	sáruk	astiip	tá	kun-tákir-ar
	Jean used to watch her	downhill	shore	PERF	3pl(>3s)-leach.(acorn.meal)-go.to

Jean used to watch her, they went to soak acorns by the riverbank.

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[160]	vaa	káan	aas	u-vúun-tih
	that	there	water	3s(>3)-flow-DUR

There was a spring flowing there.

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[161]	vaa	káan	ithasúpaah	kun-'íin-eesh	kun-tákin-ti	yuxnaam
	so	there	all.day	3pl(>3s)-(two).be-FUT	3pl(>3s)-leach.(acorn.meal)-DUR	sand

They stayed there all day, they soaked acorn dough in the fine sand.

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Grace Davis

[162]	yúux-ak	pa-t-óo	kyav
	dirt-Locative	NOMZ-PERF-3s(>3)	make

They did it in the sand.

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[163]

So I never learned that.

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[164]	manâa	uum	pu-koovúra	kin-'ítap-tih-ara	pu-koovúra	kin-'áapunmu-tih-ara	pa-kúupha
	maybe	3.SG	NEG-all	1>2s-know-DUR-NEG	NEG-all	1pl(>3)-know-DUR-NEG	the-doing

We didn't learn everything, we don't know all the customs.

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[165]	chiimíchvahich	pa-fâat	pa-nu-'áapunma
	little.by.little	NOMZ-what	NOMZ-1pl(>3)-know

We only know a little bit of all that.

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Violet Super

[166]	manâa	ník	vaa	vaa	vúra	nik	that's good enough
	maybe	a.little	so	so	Intensive	a.little	that's good enough

That's just enough, that's good enough.

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Grace Davis

[167]	t-óo	kviit-ha	hum
	PERF-3s(>3)	sleep	or

Maybe [Madeline's] gone to sleep.

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Violet Super

[168]	t-ée	kviit-ha	hum
	PERF-2s(>3)	sleep	or

[To M:] Are you asleep?

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Madeline Davis

[169]	pûuhara
	no

No.

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Violet Super

[170]	chími	nu-hyániichv-i
	soon	1pl(>3)-chat-IMPER

Let's have a conversation.

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Madeline Davis

[171]

naa

vúra

pu-na-thitív-eesh-ara

xâat

xára

kaan

kú-'uuhyana-ti

naa

vúra

vaa

pu-na-tákir-ara

fâat

vúra

pa-ku-chuphúruthuna-tih

1sg.

Intensive

NEG-1s(>3)-hear-FUT-NEG

may

long.time

there

2pl(>3)-speak-DUR

1sg.

Intensive

so

NEG-1s(>3)-leach.(acorn.meal)-NEG

what

Intensive

NOMZ-2pl(>3)-talk.about-DUR

I won't be able to hear, even if you talk a long time, I won't be able to leach acorn or whatever you're talking about.

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Grace Davis

[172]	ipêer-i
	say.to-IMPER

Tell her!

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Violet Super

[173]	nu-tákin-tih
	1pl(>3)-leach.(acorn.meal)-DUR

We're soaking acorn dough.

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Madeline Davis

[174]	hôoy	tá	ku-tákir
	where	PERF	2pl(>3)-leach.(acorn.meal)

Where are you all soaking it?

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Violet Super

[175]	sáruk	yúxnaam
	downhill	sand

By the river, in the fine sand.

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Madeline Davis

[176]	yuxnáam	u-tákir-aheen
	sand	3s(>3)-leach.(acorn.meal)-ANT

She soaked acorns in the fine sand.

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Violet Super

[177]	hári	kích	vaa	t-i-kupa-tákir-aha
	sometime	like	so	PERF-2s(>3)-MODAL-leach.(acorn.meal)-Modal

Did you ever soak acorns like that?

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Madeline Davis

[178]	púxay	vúra
	not.yet	Intensive

Never.

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Violet Super

[179]	hã'ii
	EXCLAM

Oh my.

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Madeline Davis

[180]	sáruk	áta	vúra	asá-riik	húm	fâat
	downhill	maybe	Intensive	rock-place	or	what

By the river, in the rocks, or what?

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(The beginning of this sentence is hard to understand and we rely on Bill Bright and Violet Super's transcription.)

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Violet Super

[181]	yúxnaam
	sand

In the fine sand.

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Madeline Davis

[182]	yúxnaam	vaa	káan	púva	n-éehruuv-tih-ara	pa-yúxnaam
	sand	that	there	not.yet	1s(>3)-use-DUR-NEG	the-sand

Never there in the fine sand, I didn't use the fine sand.

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(The middle portion is hard to understand and not transcribed here.)

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Grace Davis

[183]	You put a rag there	makáyvaas.
	You put a rag there	cloth

You put a rag there, a white man's cloth.

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[184]	tá	ni-tárivka	dishcloth
	PERF	1s(>3)-pour.onto	dishcloth

I soaked it in a dishcloth.

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Violet Super

[185]	manâa	naa	káru	ni-kuphêesh	ayu'âach	pa-sand	vúra	vaa
	maybe	1sg.	also	1s(>3)-will.do	it.was.because	the--sand	Intensive	so

That's what I do too, because of the sand.

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Madeline Davis

[186]

I never done that.

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[187]

I used to see them pick up the ...

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Grace Davis

[188]	yaaf	kun-'íithra
	acorn.dough	3pl(>3s)-lie.(liquid)

The acorn dough filled the container.

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Madeline Davis

[189]	aas	koo	a little bit, and then they put it in a little pot
	water	as.much.as	a little bit, and then they put it in a little pot

As much as water and then they put it in a little pot.

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Violet Super

[190]

I see my aunt do that.

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Madeline Davis

[191]

But I didn't do it, but I see them.

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Grace Davis

[192]	pa-'arara-ásip
	the-human-bowl

The Indian bowl basket.

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Madeline Davis

[193]	vaa	káru	vúra	ník	pa-pot
	so	also	Intensive	a.little	the-pot

That's all the same, the pot.

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Violet Super

[194]	páramvuram	kári	púva	kun-sáruk-anik
	boiling.basket	then	not.yet	3pl(>3s)-carry.into.sweathouse-ANC

They hadn't brought in cookpots yet.

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Madeline Davis

[195]	káru	pa-'arará-hi	nu-'úuhyana-ti	vaa	i-piip	pot
	also	the-human-language	1pl(>3)-speak-DUR	so	2s(>3)-say	pot

We're [supposed to be] talking Indian language, and then you say "pot."

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Grace Davis

[196]	ásip	uum
	bowl	3.SG

It's “ásip”.

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